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It's hard to give peace a chance when the other side regards war as a prelude to conquest. That's why Manticore needs allies against Haven, and planet Grayson is placed to make a good ally. But the Foreign Office overlooked a cultural difference when they sent Honor Harrington to carry the flag....

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The Honor of the Queen Reviews

  • Mike (the Paladin)
    2018-11-05 06:42

    First let me congratulate David Weber. I don't know what his own religious convictions (if any) are but he's done something (for me) very welcome here. He's written a book about a civilization of religious fanatics without leaving the feeling that anyone who is religious or holds religious convictions is either crazy or dangerous. That's more rare than you might might realize if it doesn't effect you. I'm a Christian and in spite of the fact that it's hard to remember the last big Baptist bombing or Methodist terror attack it seems that every time religious fanatics come up in a book recently Christians come off looking pretty bad. I mean I can see why. With well known threatening figures out there like Billy Graham and Mother Teressa it's no wonder.Anyway, that aside, the book itself is good and for me comes just short of the 5 star rating...close, oh so close, but I think that I found the ones I have given 5 stars either more enjoyable or in some way more moving. Still if we had that half star we're always talking about, this would get 4.5. Honor back in action after the events of her Command at Basilisk Station. Confronting prejudice in a society where women are still chattel she gets to change attitudes of an entire civilization, or at least try to.In the line of duty this time Honor will face physical danger, bigotry, covert killers and worst of all...a cowardly bureaucrat. Horrors. If you've read other of my reviews you know that I like protagonists who are frankly good guys (of course "guy" is used in the generic sense here with no gender inferred) who understand honor (small h), honesty, duty, courage (saddling up anyway even when you're scared to death). Heroes and heroines who struggle not to compromise with evil who understand that the strong interpose themselves between danger and the weak. So I'm a sucker for Honor Harrington. So far so good. I am enjoying the series.(view spoiler)[Almost my favorite scene in this book (if not my favorite) was when Honor slapped the bureaucrat (and of course with her strength the "slap" floors and bloodies him). And I really think Weber might have considered letting Honor keep her eye patch instead of giving her a bionic eye in the next book. Oh well, to stereotypical I suppose. :) (hide spoiler)]

  • Nate
    2018-11-13 08:26

    DISCLAIMER: I originally read this book around November of last year in an utterly narcotized state after getting all four of my wretchedly impacted wisdom teeth cut out. In short, reading David Weber's books while fucked up is not a good idea--they're full of technical detail, worldbuilding, intrigue, and feature a pretty decently sized cast of characters. This lead to a somewhat underwhelming experience and while I had fun with it, I only gave it three stars in my original review. Well, unsurprisingly I retained fuck-all from it and with these books you have to pay attention so I re-read it in preparation for my current read of the third book. I liked it much better this time around!We pick up with Captain Harrington a few years after On Basilisk Station. She's been conducting successful but not terribly interesting campaigns against pirates in some backwater system, and things get interesting when her old mentor Admiral Raoul Courvoisier presents her with a mission to form the military component of a diplomatic mission to the planet Grayson, in the Yeltsin's Star system. Sounds simple enough, until you take account of the fact that the only other inhabited planet in the system is Masada, a kind of dumber, angrier, estranged younger brother of Grayson. The colonizations and relationship between the two planets is complex and fascinating but I can basically sum it up by saying Grayson was colonized by an intensely fundamental, puritanical and dogmatic religious sect, who then had a war amongst themselves and kicked out the people that were inconveniently TOO fundamental, puritanical and dogmatic. There's a lot more to it than that but I have to say I love this kind of complex political worldbuilding Weber likes to do. Given that he started writing this as a kind of parallel to Admiral Nelson and the Napoleonic Wars it's not groundbreakingly original or anything like that but the settings and systems all feel very authentic and thoroughly considered.That's just the background of the plot, really. The Manticoran concern in the foreground is the fact that the Republic of Haven are concurrently forming an alliance with the Masadan zealots, which would give them a forward base to attack from in the long-expected war with Manticore. And Honor Harrington, Commander of the HMS Fearless, CANNOT LET THAT SHIT HAPPEN. So it's off to Yeltsin's Star for political scheming, adventure, intrigue and tense combat of the terrestrial and naval (obviously meaning space in this series) varieties. I guess I'll start with the political scheming I mentioned. These books seem to be advertised as mostly militarily-concerned science fiction. Obviously that's hard to argue with, but Weber seems to include a lot of political content in these books. It gets to the point where even the characters have a conversation about the point, if any, where the lines between the military and political apparatuses and operations of a particular government intersect, with the obligational mention of Clausewitz's On War. I am far from Politics Guy. I'm very jaded and bored with modern politics, and thusly have to especially mention that I somehow find the attention to politics fascinating in these books.Being human and thusly imperfect, David Weber devotes all this time to war and politics and plot at a seeming cost to his characters. Almost no time at all is dedicated to defining each one as a separate and unique human being, and even main characters can get pretty short shrift when it comes to personality traits and stuff like that. He does give you a decent look at what motivates the main players, though, and it doesn't end up hurting the books too much (thus far) because these books are about the big picture--the governments, their policies and decisions, and the people who have to carry them out. You're not gonna get much time with random grunts and stuff like that--despite the focus on realistic military and political structures this is still a bombastic, swashbuckling space opera and there are no Everypeople here--everyone serves on a hugely powerful spaceship, holds a high position in the government or is behind some world-changing plot or plan. Honor kind of reflects this in a way--her character is not about human angst, self-doubt and folly or anything like that. She's a smart, tall, strong genius who can kill armed opponents with her bare hands, never makes mistakes or acts petty. She's constantly facing huge adversity and odds and still comes out ahead looking like a million bucks. It's kind of nice! She's a fun protagonist to hang out with and her barefaced Mary Sueness is ironically now a refreshing change from all the self-conscious, tortured flawed protagonists of genre fiction...at least for me. (view spoiler)[The woman can't even get shot in the face properly, as this ends up basically leaving her only with an extremely badass EYEPATCH! I don't care if it's a cliche, any person wearing an eyepatch automatically looks badass. (hide spoiler)]The space action is extremely tense and awesome. I have literally never read a piece of naval-based fiction like the Hornblower or Aubrey/Maturin series, but the idea of fighting in giant warships armed to the teeth where a single mistake or piece of bad luck can result in instantaneous death for everyone aboard is some intense shit! Space makes it worse, because when the shit hits the fan you can't just jump overboard and take your chances. There's a good deal of description of the technology everyone's using from the various ships of different navies to the life-extending Prolong process and all manner of stuff, but I really found it easy to deal with and understand in this one and ended up feeling like all the detail just added weight and authenticity to the action in the book. Honestly the worst book for that kind of shit has to be the first one, because that's where you have to come to grips with ideas like Warshawski sails, impeller wedges, inertial compensators and shit like that. To an extent, Weber treats all that stuff as read so there's very little technical infodumpery going on here--just scheming and action, really. There's a LOT of talking in these books, and it can feel exposition-y, but really it never bothered me. I was just interested in what factions were at odds and for what reasons for the duration of the book. I also have to mention the Havenite antagonists were awesome, especially Captain Yu--just regular people trying to do their duty and serve their country as best as they can. The Masadans were a bit more evil-mustache-twirly but were pretty realistic in that they were religious zealots and not just insane evil weirdos.Another really fun entry in the Honor series. These aren't perfect but I think anyone who likes space opera with a strong military flavor will probably find something to like and keep coming back for. I have to mention that E-Book readers have no excuse to not give this one a shot as it, along with first entry On Basilisk Station are available on the Baen Free Library in all kinds of formats. I gotta admit I'm the tiniest bit skeptical about this pretty-huge series continuing to be consistently enjoyable experiences for me, but as long as Weber keeps coming up with different scenarios and conflicts to introduce Honor to we'll probably be good. Given that the third book finally deals with the inevitable war between Manticore and Haven I have no idea how it couldn't be exciting--it's awesome enough when a couple of these huge ships are slugging it out with terrifying beam and missile weapons at ridiculous speeds, but a Trafalgar-like true scrap between the two major powers sounds wonderfully overstimulating.

  • Susanna - Censored by GoodReads
    2018-11-05 10:34

    It's odd seeing the romance trope "she's gorgeous but totally thinks she's plain, but all the men can't stop looking at her" pop up in a space opera.

  • Andy
    2018-11-07 14:21

    3.5 stars rounded down to 3 as was a tough start & tbh nearly a series ending one....As to why?First the minus 1.5pts - Yes the backdrop to the story is required, which are around the first 100pgs or so but IT IS hard work getting through it & i nearly gave up. Ive also learnt to snooze read the techno-babble too after the first book’s Hypoenginechargetransformthingmabob so that’s no longer such a negative for me but it does go a little "overboard" at times & combined with a slow start we started on a negative rating....Redemption & the 5 pts - The success of the story revolves around Honor Harrington & her interactions, everything else is jus fluff really, all the characters are fair wooden when left to their own devices & really struggle to have empathy with any of them, then Captain Harrington walks into the room & it all lights up! The Captain really does transform the story & it fairly jaunts along once she’s back. Even her interactions with once wooden characters bring them to the fore.As too the charcters they all deserve a little more building up EVEN if some of them are a little shortlived - they become a bit like a red shirter on a Star Trek Away mission......!!! Would have liked to have seen more evolvement of Nimitz too, her empathetic Treecat, ok so he’s a whizz with Frisbee we now know plus he’s got quite good at throat ripping in a close fight but would be good to have more development believe there's scope there too... Ok so Im a cat person, and then.....! Its a good finish & the battle scenes are entertaining despite the sometimes overboard technobabble but Still gonna go with a middling three (really a 3.5) despite the positives outweighing the negatives as a four is a bit of a reach when you take the book overall.I shall read-on (for the time being)

  • KatHooper
    2018-10-22 14:20

    ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature.Though she’s a woman and not a diplomat, Honor Harrington, the highly competent and well-respected Manticoran Navy Captain, has been assigned a diplomatic mission to a planet run by a patriarchal religious cult. Why would the Manticorans send an aggressive woman with no diplomatic skills on this type of mission? There’s only one possible reason: to try to make The Honor of the Queen more interesting...I wasn’t thrilled with On Basilisk Station, the first book in the Honor Harrington series, because there was too much exposition about military tactics and spaceship dynamics and Honor was too perfect and seemed cold and distant. I decided to read The Honor of the Queen because I already had purchased it in audio and I was hoping Honor would be more relatable as we got to know her better. Actually, she does seem more human, going on an almost murderous rampage at one point and becoming teary-eyed at another. Weber begins to make it clear that Honor has emotions, but we rarely see them and she’s such a Mary Sue that it’s difficult to feel comfortable with her. Even her homicidal rampage was more righteous than reckless.But my biggest issue with the Honor Harrington series is that the plots so far (I’ve read only the first two books), though exciting at times (e.g., the big space battles at the ends) are constantly being interrupted by dull exposition about base and closing velocities, acceleration rates, missile weights, engagement times, energy ranges, magazine sizes, projected courses, etc.This material does not have to be dull. As I read, I kept comparing it to Patrick O’Brien’s Aubrey/Maturin (Master and Commander) novels which have analogous plots (just at sea instead of in space). Those books contain a lot of information about warships and naval tactics, but they are immensely entertaining because the protagonists are real people with interests, hobbies, relationships, problems and faults.To be fair to David Weber, it is certainly possible that my disappointment is partially caused by Allyson Johnson’s narration of the audiobooks. Her voices are pleasant, but she uses little inflection. I downloaded a free print copy of The Honor of the Queen at the Baen Free Library and read several pages that I thought were dull in the audio version. They were better in my head than they were on audio, but I still found myself skimming over some of the exposition (which is difficult to do with an audiobook). I’m not sure that any narrator is skilled enough to make The Honor of the Queen exciting for me or to get me past the glaring problem with the premise of Honor being sent as a diplomat to a misogynist society.I think I’m finished with Honor Harrington, which is too bad because I spent one of my Audible credits on the third book.

  • Jeffrey Jelmeland
    2018-11-15 13:42

    I started this series upon the recommendation of a friend, and I can't thank that friend enough for that recommendation. This series definitely establishes a standard for military space-opera, and unlike so many others that I have read in the past this series really does feel like something other than military fiction. This book took some work for me to get into, but at some point I found myself simply devouring the pages, unable to read fast enough to match my hunger for more. And the last 40+ pages resulted in my taking an extended break at work just to finish the book. I couldn't help myself. I had to finish it.

  • Mr. Matt
    2018-10-18 06:41

    The Honor of the Queen follows the story of Harrington in her new command, the newly commissioned RMN light cruiser, Fearless. And it offers more of the same. This is good and bad. First the good. The action is good - no great. The story revolves around a astro-political power struggle between Manticore (the good guys) and Haven (the bad guys). Both are backing client states in an otherwise insignificant star system. The rival powers are clearly positioning for a conflict and the system in question offers key advantages. The Haven client state initiates a surprise conflict and Harrington and the Fearless find themselves matched against a vastly superior foe. Through a combination of pluck and luck the good guys come out on top - although not until a desperate assault on secret starbase and a long running broadside to broadside battle. I like this stuff. I like the inside view of the astro-political conflict. I like the star battles. It's fun, and it's all done very well.There are some things that bother me. Reading these books I can't help comparing them to Dewey Lambdin's Alan Lewrie saga. The Lewrie series follows a British naval officer in the Revolutionary/Napoleonic era. As I read I keep inserting "Britain" for "Manticore" and "France" for "Haven." And it is very easy to jump between broadsides of missiles and beam weapons to broadsides of cannon and shot. Not a deal-killer for me, but it amuses me. My own mental comparisons continue and it is not good. It all comes too easy for Harrington. One of the great things about the Lewrie books is the development and growth of Alan Lewrie. He struggles against the caste of naval tradition, the slights of petty captains, and the whims of the admiralty - and this excludes his personal struggles. I think it would've been fun to have Harrington clash with a real nasty tyrant of a captain. Instead she glides from one gem pf a position to another. Regardless, the books are still fun.Three and a half stars rounded down to three. I'm continuing into the series and looking forward to the war between Haven and Manticore. I'm not certain, however, that I'll be able to make it through the 30 odd books in the series.

  • Brittany
    2018-10-25 09:43

    More engaging military space adventure fluff. This time, though, there's the added interest of some really thought-provoking ideas. It concerns a delegation to a planet/culture with a repressive attitude toward women. A lot of the book is a thought-experiment about the best, most respectful, most moral way to deal with such a culture (and whether respect and morality come into conflict at some point.)Very interesting, with a twist I wasn't expecting for a female heroine. More highly recommended than On Basilisk Station.

  • Jim
    2018-11-01 13:25

    Again, I didn't like this quite as well listening to it as reading it. There weren't as many data dumps, but Honor's insistence on taking responsibility for things outside of her control got old, something I could skim through in paper format.Johnson did a better job with the voices, although again her accents struck me as strange as did her insistence on mispronouncing some common words. She did a good job pitching her tone to fit the excitement level.It was a fun romp with Honor shining again.

  • Tina
    2018-10-18 08:40

    This is the second book on the Honor Harrington series.After the events from Basilisk Station, the Manticorans realize that war with the Peeps (The People's Republic if Haven) is an inevitability. They decided to seek a strategic alliance. The queen sends a envoy of ships and diplomats to the small planet Grayson to seek their alliance and to help them out with a problem they are having with a sister planet of their own. Honor and her crew are along for the ride.There is a slight problem. Grayson is a cultural backwater. They are a male dominated planet where polygamy is the norm and women do not have rank or rights. Needless to say things get interesting when they get a load of Honor Harrington.This book is an excellent follow-up to the also great first book of the series, On Basilisk Station. This is our first introduction to the Graysons, a people who will become very important in the course of this series and to Honor. But this first introduction is a rocky one. The Graysons are absolutely reactionary to the presence of women serving not only in the armed forces but also as officers, commanders or in an capacity of leadership, really. Manticore is a monarchy that is headed by a Queen and there is total equality of the sexes there. So the cultural clash Weber sets up winds through the entire book and sets the stage for the later books where one person, Honor, can start to widen the horizons of an entire people.In the meantime, what is supposed to be a diplomatic mission, quickly goes south. The situation with the Grayson fanatical sister planet (and they are fanatics, the floor rolling, foam-at-the-mouth, bat-shit crazy type) turns deadly as they seek to conquer Grayson both from without (using ships supplied to them by the Peeps) and from within as a Grayson traitor seeks to overthrow the government.Honor spends much of the book meekly and quietly in the background, not wanting to jeopardize the diplomatic mission because her presence there is so distasteful to the Graysons. But once the situation goes critical Honor steps up and heads start to roll.David Weber has a fine sense of how to craft a confrontation on paper. It could be as small as just two people trading barbs or as large as a full out military battle. This book is peppered with such gems. There are several great scenes: 1) When Honor beats the living crap out the of arrogant diplomat who is totally clueless as to how dangerous their situation has gotten, 2)When she foils the attempted coup at the palace and 3) The entire sequence of events when Honor goes to Blackbird Station and discovers how the prisoners of war had been mistreated.And then there is what I like to call "the final Battle." Almost every Honor Harrington book has this decisive, mother of all space battles. It usually involves Honor being a tactical genius (tactics is her specialty) and lots of explosions, humongous body counts, terrific descriptions of missile blasts and destruction. But aside from that what makes these scenes so awesome are the character reactions to what they are doing. He puts you in the head of not only Honor, but her crew and the opposing crew. You "hear" what they are thinking, how they rise to their tasks, their frantic efforts to do the job they were trained for, their understanding that they might die if they don't, their glee when they hit upon a great solution, their despair when they realize someone has died. And then there is that moment.... In every battle scene there is the pivotal moment he describes when the one side realizes they just did the one thing that made them win, and the other side realizes they are about to die. It is knee thumping exciting stuff.

  • Niall Teasdale
    2018-10-26 10:30

    It's probably a little over 2 stars, but while this book had a big finish, it had an annoying lack of satisfaction before you get there.This is the second Honor Harrington book and it has some really good bits to it, but more than half of it is not about the lead character. In the first book, there's a lot of frittering over her crew's dislike of her until she works through it and, aside from her showing she knows her stuff, nothing happens. In this one you get plenty of nothing happening, and quite frequently it doesn't happen to other people.Manticore and Haven are still preparing for the war they both know is coming (and if Haven were only more genre savvy, they would have given up already). Honor is tasked with the escort of a diplomatic delegation to a planet full of moderately hard-line religious types who find the idea of women in uniform (or doing anything outside the house really) as anathema. The Havenites are cosying up to another bunch who schismed off from the first in order to be more insanely hard line. This bunch of extremists are the real bad guys in this one; the Havenites act pretty much like the scheming, moustachioed villains they were in the first book.However... There's an attempt going on here to humanise Haven, but to do it, Weber contrasts them to a bunch of monsters. The Masadans (the fundamentalists) are a strawman example of a theocracy gone entirely bad, a combination of every bad trait of every monotheistic religion in our world. They come over as cardboard characters, like the Germans in old WWII films. no matter how hard Weber tries to put us inside their heads. They are puppy-kickers and little else. Except for when they're chewing the scenery.There's an obvious anti-misogyny element to the story which put me off getting this book for quite a while. Not because I dislike that kind of plot, but because I suspected it would be handled in a heavy-handed manner... and I was not disappointed. There's a lot of textbook stuff from the 'chauvinist's guide to being a classic villain.' Then Honor and Nimitiz have a crowning moment of awesome and suddenly she's past most of it, from her side anyway. Of course, the bad guys just hate her more.There were also two technical errors which kind of yanked me out of the story. One I should have spotted in the first book, but it's more clearly explained in the second. Gravity waves travel faster than light, and that's wrong. That was how Newtonian Gravity worked, but our gravity travels at light speed. That's been suspected for a while, but was not proved until after the series was started, so I guess I can let Weber off for that one. However, right in the middle of a combat scene I got hauled up out of the story because Weber doesn't know what a flechette is. It's quite a specific term, and it's applied to a weapon which, as described, does not fire flechettes.Okay, so, lot of criticism, but there were good points. The space battles were, as usual, well handled and while they're happening the book hums along nicely as you wonder who is going to die so Honor can deploy her enormous guilt complex on them. We get some fairly good ground combat in this one too, and it's also handled with an adroit hand.Most importantly, Nimitz the Treecat gets an opportunity to kick some serious ass. Clearly the true protagonist of the books, Nimitz gets to prove he's downright lethal, as well as making Honor even more lethal than she would be without him. In short: Nimitz rocks!Summary: really drags for about half the book, pedestrian more often that it needed to be, some moments of severe awesome. Needs more Nimitz (obviously) and (unfortunately) more Honor.

  • James
    2018-11-16 06:44

    A little darker in places than the previous book, On Basilisk Station, this book touches on religious (in)tolerance, sexual discrimination and violence as well as the different moral lines in the sand that individuals and groups will set themselves in an ongoing war. Weber handles the topics well, each group manages to get represented across most of the human spectrum – some good people, some not so good people, some downright fucking nasty people and some people who need a trigger event of some kind to make them appraise their own culture and hopefully rise above it.Fresh from her success in On Basilisk Station, a promotion and a new ship and crew. Honor is volunteered to accompany her former teacher on a diplomatic mission to form an alliance with one of two worlds that sit slap-bang in between Manticore and their enemies – the People's Republic of Haven. These two worlds are theocracies, both subscribing to a sort of ultra-conservative Christian off-shoot that has attempted to reject many of Earth's previous advances – including advanced technology and feminism. As with any religious group, it seems, once they got out into space and colonised their new world, schisms appeared and suddenly they needed two worlds. Now, not only are they sitting slap between the two warring systems, but they don't speak to each other and the second world views the recolonisation (or destruction if necessary) of the previous world as the will of God.Honor hasn't ever been strong on diplomacy it seems, and with two warring systems and a sister-world all congregating round the tiny inhospitable world of Grayson it isn't going to be long before the shooting starts...

  • Enzo
    2018-10-17 06:27

    David Weber again excels in "The Honor of the Queen" were Captain Honor again goes out against all odds to try to save the day. This is part of a great series. Yes, its the second of the line, and its a great read. As SciFi writers go Weber is a favorite because he gives us detail. Names of instruments and descriptions of future technology are a big hit. The Honor books have technology to spare and delight the reader. Captain Honor Harrington is really a remarkable character. One that envisions many of the great things we expect in a leader. She just simply does to know how to give up.This book is based in a System where Religious leaders trying to get away from technology escaped to. Their beliefs are a bit controversial if not outlandish but its interesting how Weber manages to write about them without really making us truly feel we need to hate them. The Fanaticals in the book are a different story, those you dislike straight out. But you need to read the context in the book to follow. HMS Fearless arrives with everything against them and again on pure Honor style she wins people over while looking at long odds of her and her crew survival.Get the books read the series it is highly recommended SciFi.

  • Sandi
    2018-11-10 11:29

    There is no way in heck anyone will convince me to continue with this series. It's boring beyond belief. The audiobook narrator is good, so I will look for more of her work. However, I won't be reading any of David Weber's books anytime soon. The only reason I gave this two stars is that there were a few good scenes in it. It's too bad they were so short and so spread out.

  • William
    2018-10-19 10:19

    A great continuation of the "Honor-verse" series. Love the main characters, and (again) these books have SUPERB space battles - wonderfully technical and very gung-ho, a true homage to the Horatio Hornblower tradition.I will be reading the whole series, I presume!

  • L'ours inculte
    2018-11-12 10:29

    Pour ce deuxième tome de la saga Honor Harrington, notre héroïne se voit prendre du galon, des responsabilités, et toutes les emmerdes qui vont avec. Après un premier tome explosif, David Weber nous emmène pour un second tour dans les coursives de ses grands vaisseaux militaires.Honor est ici chargée d’accompagner une mission diplomatique du royaume de Manticore sur la planète Grayson. Ce caillou fort peu hospitalier se trouve entre La république de Havre et leur système et donc, comme Basilic, représente un enjeu stratégique pour les deux super-puissances. Premier problème : Les habitants de Grayson sont pas vraiment des adeptes de l’égalité des sexes, et voir une flotte dirigée par une femme peut être un peu difficile à avaler pour eux d’autant plus qu’Honor est pas la plus diplomate dans l’affaire. Second problème : La planète Masada, voisine et ennemie jurée de Grayson, complote dans l’ombre avec les force de Havre pour prendre le contrôle du système.A première vue, on démarre sur le même principe que le roman précédent. On a une planète indépendante entre Manticore et Havre et les deux vont se taper dessus pour en prendre le contrôle. Heureusement, cette aventure-ci prend une tournure différente très rapidement. La mission est à priori diplomatique et encore une fois, l’auteur prend son temps pour installer le contexte, et c’est pas superflu. Le temps de présenter les différentes factions avec leurs conflits idéologiques, on approche les 200 pages mais on ne s’ennuie pas pour autant. Comme Weber n’a plus à présenter certains éléments détaillés dans Mission Basilic, il peut s’étendre sur d’autres sujets et explorer de nouvelles choses.Un des thèmes centraux de cette nouvelle mission est le féminisme. En lisant mon résumé vous vous direz peut-être « bah, encore des méchants misogynes contre les gentils égalitaires » et… vous n’aurez pas forcément tort maaaaaaaais on nous apporte assez de nuances pour mesurer le propos et taper dans pas mal de zones grises. Les Masadiens sont ici les vrais fanatiques religieux, les tarés vraiment arriérés à qui on a régulièrement envie de foutre des baffes, ça c’est certain. Mais du côté de Grayson, Weber arrive à beaucoup nuancer la chose à travers des rencontres explosives ou des discussions plus posées. Elles mettront en évidence le choc de culture flagrant mais y apportent souvent des explications historiques, culturelles et nuancent le propos en présentant des Graysonniens « modérés » qui ont un discours réfléchi, etc… C’est notamment une grande discussion entre Courvosier et Yanakov qui va commencer à apporter une réflexion un peu plus profonde sur le sujet.Mais on est pas non plus là pour bavasser pendant 560 pages ! Et de l’action on va y avoir droit ! De ce point de vue là, j’ai trouvé que ce deuxième opus était bien plus équilibré que le précédent qui avait gardé sa grande bataille pour la toute fin. Ici, le rythme est mieux maîtrisé grâce à une meilleure répartition de l’action au milieu du reste. On retrouve des grandes batailles navales spatiales à plusieurs moments-clé, avec le même sens du détail associé à une progression dramatique vraiment bien gérée. C’est complexe, clair, et prenant à la fois. Mais deux des scènes les plus marquantes se passent loin des tableaux de contrôle et des postes de pilotage. Ceux qui ont lu le roman reconnaitront sûrement de quoi je parle mais j’ai pas envie de les spoiler du tout. Weber arrive à faire exploser la personnalité de son héroïne dans à peu près tous les sens du terme dans quelques scènes puissantes, débordantes de rage, de violence et de drame. Ça vous retourne un peu quand même.Autour d’Honor on a une galerie de personnages secondaires vraiment intéressants. Outre les quelques-uns qu’on connait déjà, l’auteur s’amuse à multiplier les points de vue de narration pour nous faire comprendre toutes les perspectives. Si ça a tendance à perdre un peu le lecteur parfois, ça a surtout l’avantage de nous faire voir tous les aspects du conflit et de nous faire ressentir de l’empathie pour presque tous les camps, à part pour Masada parce que là ça serait vraiment trop compliqué. Sauf si vous êtes un psychopathe fanatique mais je peux rien pour vous.Pour l’honneur de la reine est une réussite qui arrive à surpasser le premier tome de la saga Honor Harrington, grâce à un meilleur équilibre entre tous ses aspects et surtout une puissance dramatique multipliée. Parfait mélange de rigueur science-fictionnesque, de personnages forts et d’intrigue parfaitement calibrée, David Weber va finir par me réconcilier avec la SF, et c’était pas gagné.http://ours-inculte.fr/honor-harringt...

  • Frank
    2018-11-03 07:24

    Three years after book 1 (On Basilisk Station), Captain Harrington returns to the Star Kingdom in order to support a diplomatic mission to the sexist patriarchal society of the planet Grayson. With a looming war with Haven, Manticore is looking to form an alliance with Grayson. Grayson is not thrilled that a woman, Harrington, as well as, another female Captain, Truman have such an important position in the Mantcore Navy. These are new challenges that Harrington is not ready for, and thus commits her mistakes along the way. It is a bumpy ride for her new job and all the new characters that cross her path in this second outing.

  • Ed [Redacted]
    2018-11-01 10:41

    This was my first foray into the Honor Harrington series. I got this one instead of the first in the series (On Basilisk Station) because it was the one available to me more easily. HOTQ is a book about a young Captain in the employ of the navy of the "Star Kingdom of Manticore" (SKM). Manticore is ruled by a queen and seems to be set up in a more or less standard constitutional monarchy. (Why is it that the more libertarian writers like Niven, Weber, Pournelle and frankly the vast majority of Baen's stable seem to lean heavily toward monarchy?) SKM is attempting to form a treaty with a planet (Grayson) in a star system strategically located between SKM and their main enemy the People's Republic of Haven (PRH) AKA "peeps" or "Havenites". As you might have guessed from the name they are (gasp) Socialists and are therefore made out of suck. On several occasions we are shown how awful socialism is under the PRH, especially when juxtaposed with the joys of living under a monarch(?). As a humorous aside, the capital of the PRH is "Nouveau Paris".Anyway,Cpt. Harrington is charged with leading the military aspect of the mission to Grayson. The only issue is that Grayson is a planet which was founded by fundamentalist Christians who were so fundamentalist that they rejected the new testament and lived by the laws of the old testament. I had heard that people like this were called "Jews" but apparently not in the David Weber universe. Because of their fundamentalism, the Grayson folks were highly sexist, with gender roles very tightly circumscribed. Women, as one could imagine, were definitely not to serve in the military. Harrington of course is a woman, which lead, inexorably, to all types of nonsense that no military would ever accept from it's officers .If you thought Grayson was bad, there is another habitable planet in the system (might have been a moon, I don't recall now.) Masada. Masada is so fundamentalist that it makes Grayson look like a bunch of Berkeley hippies smoking weed at a My Morning Jacket concert. Masada has been at war with Grayson in the past and has sworn to destroy them all. It is not known if they laughed evilly and stroked a cat while they made this pledge.I don't want to get much more into the plot of the book at this point because spoilers abound. The Graysons and the SKM end up getting into it with the Graysons which were surreptitiously supported by the PRH and it all comes to a head.I am of two minds when it comes to this book. I was very impressed with the battle and action scenes (very well done with a slight tendency to pull something out of their ass at the last minute.),the intricate plotting,and the fully developed world i which the story takes place. The characters, unfortunately, were wooden and quite unbelievable. I also was not too impressed with Cpt. Harrington's Ninja cat or whatever the hell that was. The entire time I was reading in absolute disbelief. Nothing could have taken me out of the book more than this.All in all, despite the goofy parts listed above, I thought this was an average book. There were many good points and many bad points but it was essentially an enjoyable read. An easy 3 stars. I will probably be willing to try the next book in the series at some point.

  • Xabi1990
    2018-10-22 14:41

    El titulo comienza siendo un juego de palabras, bastante malo, donde el nombre de la protagonista, Honor Harrington, se mezcla con que esta “pertenece” a su reina del imperio Manticoriano.Más cosas. Es el segundo de la saga de Honor Harrington. Al primero le puse 7,5/10 (debía estar generoso ese día). A este segundo 6/10, y gracias. ¿Por qué? Pues porque el argumento es previsible, los personajes planitos y ni tan siquiera la acción continua a base de batallitas espaciales entre naves (o a pistoletazo limpio) salvan el asunto.Le he acabado porque tanta acción permite su lectura, pero para space opera militarista (ninguno de esos tres términos me ofende, conste, incluso me agradan a priori) de naves a torpedazo/laserazo/graserazo limpio las hay mucho mejores en CF: Card, Scalzi, Bujold, las batallitas de Bill héroe espacial … vamos, que no creo que siga con esta saga.Vosotros mismos. Vosotras mismas. Miembros y miembras.

  • Jim
    2018-11-08 11:44

    This was a good follow-up to the wonderful 1st book in the Honor Harrington series. It did suffer a bit from the sophomore slump. The book was more predictable than its predecessor. It contained quite a bit more language (if that bothers you) but not enough to seem unjustified in a military sci-fi setting. Ironically, it wasn't the military people doing the cussing, it was the religious people.Although the bad guys in this book were religious people, it didn't seem to be centered around religion bashing, which I hate as a premise of main plot vehicle.Oh... and that damn cat seems to be getting smarter every book. I think by book 5 the cat may be in charge of astrogation.

  • Jim
    2018-10-18 06:33

    28Aug2011: Re-read for September in Beyond Reality group. An excellent second book to the series. The universe grows & we find out more about Honor. Excellent fights, not just with ships. 2008: No review, but I rated it with 4 stars.

  • Dan
    2018-11-02 11:44

    I am so glad that I discovered this series walking past the best sellers section of a Stop and Shop about 2 decades ago.

  • Lindsay
    2018-10-25 07:20

    As I am still new to the sci-fi genre, the first book in this series was difficult for me to get into. However, starting this second book, I am glad I continued to pursue the series.This book was intriguing, eye-opening, and empowering. Captain Harrington, renowned military personnel of the Queen’s navy, is fantastic. She is strong, independent, skilled, and tough as nails. But when she comes to the planet Grayson, she is faced with hatred simply because she is a woman. The patriarchal society refuses to work with her, or even acknowledge her high ranking. This book was a fantastic narrative on how she had to overcome sexism (but of course in a fantastical space-themed realm). I thoroughly enjoyed seeing how even a tough woman like Harrington, had to battle this sexist and rude planet and empower the own women aboard her ship. This book was great! And in addition to the beautiful character development, the action and plot made this a page-turner!If you like books with amazing female leads and some epic space battle, this is the sci-fi series for you!

  • Steve
    2018-10-16 09:46

    Five stars if only for the simple fact that I couldn't put this down. I was a little disappointed by what length of time had elapsed from the first book, but the action very quickly picked up, and I found myself embroiled in the politics of Manticore. The climax really did sneak up on me, and it wasn't until at least six pages in that I realised that it must be. The resolution felt a tiny bit stilted to me, but I'm fascinated by this series, and very curious where it's going.

  • S. J.
    2018-11-12 09:20

    *4.7 Stars*Scorecard: (Out of 10)* Quality of Writing - 10* Pace - 8* Plot development - 10* Characters - 10* Enjoyability - 9* Insightfulness - 10* Ease of Reading - 9* Photos/Illustrations - NAFinal Score: 66/70 = 94%*WARNING: In addition to the series' usual battle sequences and somewhat graphic death scenes, there are some terrible events that take place in this book. While the author handles them with care, they are not for young teens and older readers should be aware of what they are getting into. *The Gush*My husband's and my reading interests are usually completely different; not even in the same ballpark. So when he suggested Weber's Honor Harrington series, I at first said no. I like Scifi stories generally but with our track record I figured there were too many other books that I would rather read. Finally, however, I gave in...and I've never been so happy to be so wrong. I now like the series better then my husband and have read farther then him.I'd read this book at least three times before, but read it again when I realized I neglected to write a review of it. I wasn't sure what to expect when I started this right after Basilisk station, but this really surprised me. And concerned me. The first time I read it, I still didn't have a handle on what kind of author Weber was. So when I saw he was going to tackle the loaded issue of religious differences and fanaticism, I nearly stopped reading the book. I didn't want one of the freshest and exciting new (to me) series I'd read in ages to be ruined in only the second book. In my experience, even 'fair-minded' authors do little more then make you feel sorry for 'stupid' religious people. Instead, Weber worked extremely hard to give everyone, even the fanatics, a chance to show they are also human. You can disagree with them, you can even hate what their actions, but he reminds you they are people. As for the Graysons, he gives each of them a chance to be human as well. He shows the spectrum of issues and that even people with similar levels of belief can hold different thoughts on the suitability of actions. Clinkscales is the best example of this and bare none my favorite person from Grayson. He makes no apologies for what he believes but also is willing to reevaluate and admit when he's been wrong. Weber's characters are some of the best I've read in fiction in a long time because they are human, warts and all. My other favorite character is Admiral Raoul Courvosier, Honor's mentor and ranks up there with Admiral Hamish Alexander in my favorite Manticoran higher navel officers. He is a great diplomat as well as a great tactician and means a great deal to Honor. (view spoiler)[I know Weber has every character be fair game in his works, but killing Courvosier was one of the saddest moments in my reading of the Harrington series. Even worse then later in the book when Honor's left side of her face is ravaged while protecting Protector Benjamin's life and family. (hide spoiler)]The plot is interesting and already showing the change in trend from less battles and more politics. Not completely, and there are always plenty of battles, but Honor is climbing in the ranks and with rank comes more then just better ships; there comes politics and the need to be both a person of action and a person of wise words. What she does both good and ill in this book set the course of the rest of her life both good and bad. You see her grow and develop but you also see her make serious mistakes. One of the main reasons I dislike saying she is a Mary Sue, though others label her as such. If you've read the Horatio Hornblower series (which this is sort of based off of), you understand why thing work they way they do in this series. But Honor makes mistakes, often times costly ones, but she learns from them. The writing is engaging, though a bit technical and military for my knowledge base at times. It speaks of how well Weber writes that I have never skipped any of these parts and even have come to enjoy them. I may not completely understand them, but they are part of the story and are very interesting. *The Rant*As I stated in the warning, there are some parts of this book in particular that are disturbing to read. One of the reasons I could not give it a higher ease of reading. While one of the reason I like Weber is he is realistic without being gruesome, it does not matter how delicately you handle something like (view spoiler)[rape (hide spoiler)], it is still difficult to read about. The action sequences, particularly when arms are used are realistically portrayed without dwelling on the blood, guts, and gore. This series is one of the few with such descriptions I've ever been able to read. These are not bad things about the book, but rather then to be mindful of.*Conclusion*If you enjoyed the first book in the series, I strong recommend continuing with this book. While difficult at times to read because of the subject matter, the author handles these issues with great care and thoughtful writing. The story is engaging and one sure to interest nearly all readers.

  • Hannah Ringler
    2018-11-10 07:31

    Tea Recommendation: Earl Gray.This series was a recommendation from a good friend of mine, and was sold to me as ‘Master and Commander! In space. With women.’ And that is almost completely true. The main difference - and it is a very large difference - between that summation and the contents of the books is that the Aubreyad is, at its heart, a story about friendship and the Honor series is a series that deals with isolation, overcoming it, and the extent to which Honor cannot overcome her isolation.Essentially, Honor Harrington is chosen for a diplomatic mission to a planet full of religious fanatics. They are, specifically, incredibly sexist. And they’ve got a problem with their neighbor planet, which is even more into fundamentalism than they are. So naturally, Honor is picked for this mission, and ends up facing prejudice from all sides. And, under the prejudice she faces from the planet, even with the support from her mentor, her peers, and her crew, she crumbles. She runs away. And no one can blame her for it. It’s a very good look at the skin-crawling exhaustion that accompanies prejudice - attempting to prove it wrong, feeling wrong yourself because of the negative regard of so many people, maintaining calm and reason under that prejudice, all of that is draining, and when Honor decides to accompany the convoy, despite the negative connotations of that move for those watching the diplomatic mission, neither you as the reader nor her peers can blame her. Believe she shouldn’t have done, certainly. Believe it was a perfectly understandable and sympathetic decision, of course. And of course it does go badly.Ultimately, however, it’s prejudice from her own side that proves more damaging. It’s not so much that she’s a woman; the Royal Manticoran Navy is well-accustomed to women. It’s the prejudice formed by malicious rumor. In her academy days, Honor made an enemy, and that has caused her problems ever since. She’s considered reactive, impulsive, hotheaded, a wild card. Unreliable, and a warmonger. None of the above is true. However, rumors hold greater power than evidence - as usual, humans are more inclined to trust information they hear from a friend than information they glean from reports and analysis. Which is not necessarily wrong! But it often lacks the skepticism based in doubt about the authors’ motivations that we apply to articles and ‘official’ information.Which leads me to another theme of the book - reluctance to question beliefs, regardless of new data that suggests beliefs need to be reordered. This, too, causes some major problems, and it’s not just the religious fanatics who aren’t interested in redefining their belief systems. The diplomats and members of the Navy are themselves reluctant to question their beliefs, in the matter of Honor and in the matter of the nature of the mission itself, and it is in many ways disastrous. Some of the fallout from this is - sickening. If you’re sensitive, skip the bit about the prisoners of war. It’s… disturbing. We only see the aftermath, but there are more than enough details to put together a queasy certainty about what they went through.Related to that, there’s a certain amount of tension between this necessity of questioning belief and the equal necessity of standing up for what you believe in. There’s a member of the Manticoran’s opposition who is completely against what was done to the prisoners, and yet, he didn’t take any steps to stop them. It’s quite possible he wouldn’t have succeeded, or that it would’ve compromised his own political mission, but he didn’t try. Honor, standing up for her beliefs, is lauded for it, and saves the day. However, from another perspective, you could say that the planet of the really, really, really fanatical zealots is also standing up for what they believe in, and from their perspective, shouldn’t they be lauded as well? This book is written from the perspective of the victors, and while we might agree with them, that conflict between questioning and defending belief is one that I think was not adequately resolved in the book, and one that is difficult to resolve in our own lives as well.tl;dr - it’s a largely fun book with a lady space captain on a diplomatic mission! Epic space battles! Lots of things go boom! If you like Age of Sail stuff, you’ll probably like this. Be careful of the bit with the prisoners of war if you are triggered by the horrible abuses that can happen to people who are vulnerable in tense situations.

  • Mark
    2018-10-31 11:28

    Another Stellar readBook 2 of the series was even better than book 1. A little politics, action and drama. Looking forward to the 3rd book

  • ***Dave Hill
    2018-10-30 06:39

    APRIL 2012 REVIEW - This is likely my favorite of the Honorverse books, though all of the first half-dozen have something to recommend them and, as it was the first I read, I may be slightly prejudiced.Still, it's damn fine space opera / SF Military Melodrama, as Our Heroine faces prejudice, assassins, holy warriors, and Impossible Odds, and does so with feet of -- well, not clay, but not the perfect water-walking platinum (metaphorically speaking) she later attains. She has flaws here -- insecurities, uncertainties, inabilities, guilty conscience, and rash anger, and that lends a pleasant imperfection to her competence, admirability, and heroism. Only an overhelping of Dungeon Master Rewards at the end tarnish the tale, making it just a bit too good to suspend belief over.Still, it's a fine, fun read. And re-read.----------------------PREVIOUSLY (Apr 2012)When I first starting reading the Honorverse series, this was actually the first volume I (inadvertently) picked up, and it took a bit to realize that the references to the previous book weren't just backstory hints.HotQ is splendid military space opera, with big battles interspersed with personal melodrama, and political intrigue. The book is not solely about (or even solely from the PoV) of Honor, though she still takes center stage, and this book strikes a good balance in that which lasts for several more volumes. Some of the drama is still overwrought, but other bits of it still, frankly, choke me up (the scenes on Blackbird station, for example). Weber does a good job -- amidst the straw man mustachioed villains -- of also providing antagonists for the "good guys" who are respectable and honorable individuals.Which raises one of the key elements of the tale, that of religion. Transitioning from a secular society (albeit one with sort of a ceremonial High Church aspect), we encounter a world founded by religious fundamentalists. Weber walks some fine lines here, mostly successfully, both in noting how Real Life affects religious beliefs, and how those beliefs in turn change how one reacts to Real Life. Further, he manages to have religious believers (even zealous ones) across a spectrum of wackiness -- from folks who are willing to distinguish between moral imperatives and their own cultural prejudices, to folks who quite clearly are not. It's not wildly nuanced, but it's better than a lot of other treatments of recognizable religion in science fiction.If HotQ has a weak point, it comes at the very end, when the author bumps the main player character up five levels, giving her rewards and accolades far beyond reason. If it was just for simple coolness, then it's poorly done; if it was to escalate the following books, it's a bit more understandable but still poorly done.Still, overall, it's a very fun book, and one that I keep coming back to. It's also a foundational book in the series, laying the groundwork for further adventures in the Grayson system and with Honor's relationship to the society there.

  • Simone
    2018-11-10 07:28

    The Honor of The Queen is the second novel in the Honor Harrington series by David Weber (commonly known as the Honorverse), and is, in my opinion, one of the strongest of the series in terms of showcasing Honor’s character and ideals. Honor Harrington embodies the principles of The Star Kingdom of Manticore; she is noble, intelligent, understanding, and above all, loyal to her Queen. On Basilisk Station, the first book of the series, explains the political situation between The Star Kingdom of Manticore and the People’s Republic of Haven in a very condensed manner. The Honor of The Queen continues this theme of clandestine confrontation to a new star system, but highlights the manner in which other worlds and systems have been caught between Manticore and Haven. Grayson, the potential new ally of the Star Kingdom, knows that one of the reasons that Manticore is interested in becoming its ally is the potential to use Grayson’s system, Yeltsin, as a barrier between Manticore and Haven. However, Grayson also understands Haven’s interest in Yeltsin, and that Haven is more likely to take Grayson by force instead of allying with it.Honor Harrington is sent with a taskfore to escort the Diplomatic Party to Grayson to bring back an alliance with Grayson. However, upon arriving at Grayson, Honor comes face to face with Grayson’s prejudices against women—specifically the belief that women are equal to men in all forms. Over the course of the novel Honor comes to act as a foil to Grayson’s view on women, showing them that they are as capable as their men, if not more capable in Honor’s case.I thoroughly enjoyed the way that The People’s Republic of Haven was shown in this novel. I think it is important that Haven is not shown to be completely bad in fact, in many ways, Grayson is actually worse than Haven. However, while there are definitely “good” individuals from Haven, just as there are “bad” individuals from Manticore, the differences in their governments is stark. This is my third, or possibly fourth, read of The Honor of The Queen and I’m sure that it isn’t going to be my last given the strength of the novel—both in terms of characters and plot. It is a thoroughly enjoyable read filled with both interesting character angles, and intriguing space battles. Honor Harrington is the perfect character to pull off both the personal and impersonal aspects of the novel, and like Alice Truman I am more than happy to follow Honor.

  • Kristin
    2018-11-12 10:27

    This book felt like I was reading one info dump after another: summary of what happened at Basilisk, history of Greyson, history of Masada, complete breakdown of the Manticoran Fleet, competely dissection of ship capabilities. Info. Overload.I kept coming across what I considered "unnecessary science"- there is the over used example in writing workshops of "the door iris-ed open" to convey that it was not a traditional door, but a futuristic setting. While I can't find the example I want from the book ('reading' as an audiobook), it's as if the author is trying too hard to establish the science and/or militaristic aspect of the setting. "The door irised open with the individual wedges sliding seamlessly into the wall with a slight hydrolic hissing, fitting snugly into the metal bulkheads that gave the LAC its unique shape and structure." My issue with the audiobook - Honor's voice sounded like a child's, squeaky and high pitched. Not the "smooth soprano" as indicated in the book. There were several other female characters and their voice would have been perfect for Honor's. Alas, no. She got high pitched and childlike making commands sound questioning rather than commanding.The whole premise of the book - religious diaspora, religious schism, religious fanatics on two worlds, a universal "superpower" stepping in to try and resolve difference that go back centuries, a third power who wants a slice of the pie - was too America/Middle East with flavors of Mormonism to even be unique or interesting. The use of "Satan's Harlot" and "Whores of Satan", "the Infidels" to refer to the Manticoran women, and in particular, Honor, didn't seem to convey the right religious fervor and instead, felt antiquated and out of date. The whole concept of a far future religious society that "protects women" and cannot wrap their brains around the fact that the rest of the universe allows women in society - OMG! equal rights! - did not make for the best background story. I recall not being thrilled with book #2 the first time I read it (pre-Goodreads reviews) but upon a second 'reading', I remembered why. I waffled about whether I wanted to even finish this audiobook, but since I was waiting for an audiobook to come in at the library, I stuck it out. Still not recommended.